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EP 309: Coffee w/ Kev – Kevin Rogers is out to save copywriting

   In This Episode We’re in something of a crisis in copywriting right now. But, it’s not for the reasons you might think.  Technology is not the issue.  It’s actually the opposite… BARBARIANS.  People who treat our proud craft like a biz-opp product and sell it like a “get rich quick” scheme.  Today I’m sharing

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How to fight

“Everybody circle up,” yelled Pete, the wiry, wild-eyed boxing instructor at Combat Fitness.  “If I point at you, get on the mat. Three-minute rounds.” I stood awkwardly adjusting the tattered, sour-smelling headgear over my ears and scanned the other men in the circle.  A full spectrum of ages and fitness levels, all with one common

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The scary thing

I was in the “shaving needs” aisle of a small grocery store when it hit me and I started FREAKING OUT.  My nerves on end, adrenaline pumping relentlessly, my feet disconnected from the floor.  I felt like a character in a Twilight Zone story where the world moves at half your speed.  People at the

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EP 306: Kevin Rogers & Rob Tillman – 3 Best Copywriting Categories for 2024 

   In This Episode So, it’s 2024 and you’re still a human. We’re off to a good start. Copywriting needs good humans.  Today, I’m going to reveal the Top 3 Copywriting Categories for Freelancers in 2024. And also, the one place where your services are no longer needed.  This is a session from the live

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Starting over

When I quit stand-up comedy and got off the road, I was STUCK. Ten years of driving all over the United States, sleeping in dingy motels, and talking dirty to strangers for laughs was incredible fun.  But, when it was time for me to pull off the road and find a new line of work…

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Crashing the gate

“Can I see your ID, sir?” “Are you fking serious?” That’s how my day started at the “Copy Legends Lock-in” event Tuesday in Orlando.  The “lock-in” was a one-day, invite-only mastermind hosted by Todd Brown, fulfilling a longtime dream of his to gather around a table with what he considers the “absolute royalty of Direct

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Don’t tell

“Wait… is that an actual suggestion, or is this some sort of metaphor?” My brain wasn’t comprehending what my therapist, Nick, was telling me.  “Just for three months to see what happens,” Nick replied. “Absolutely not,” I said tersely. “I am not up for that.” Up until this point, in nearly six months of sessions

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Total humiliation

Get this… It’s Thursday of last week.  I have, essentially ONE thing on my calendar:  “Podcast Recording – Marie Forleo 4:30” You should know… I friggin’ LOVE Marie Forleo! I could take up the next three pages listing all the reasons I admire her and what she’s built through MarieTV, B School, Copy Cure, her

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EP 294: Stress-Free Selling with Psychotherapist, Leah Benson

   In This Episode As creative freelancers, selling ourselves and our services feels unnatural.  But, it’s a critical part of the gig. There’s no getting around it. So, I decided to interview a licensed psychotherapist to find out… Why do creatives have mental blocks around selling? What can we do to remove the mental stress

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EP 292: The secret side-door into financial copywriting w/ Joshua Lee Henry

   In This Episode Here’s ONE thing everyone in the copywriting industry can agree on (probably the only one)… The best copywriters in the world write in the financial niche.  I could list a dozen reasons why that is, but you likely know them already. It really comes down to the fact that… Financial is

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EP 291: Wisdom Tree: Laura Belgray on writing, and selling, Tough Titties

   In This Episode “I went into a [yearlong] spiral trying to rewrite this thing.” Writing a “book, book” is not for the faint of heart.  As writers with lists, we wake up, think of something worthy of sharing, do our best to make it valuable and entertaining, and ship it an hour or two

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A good “no”

“I’d love to hire you, but I just can’t afford your price.” “I’d love to work with you, but I just can’t wait for your next opening.” “This all looks great, but you’re a bit out of my league.” Hearing these phrases from good prospects is music to a freelancer’s ears.  I call them, “a

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Your writing bubble

One of the greatest challenges for freelancers is creating “the bubble.” The impenetrable little cocoon of sanctity where you do your thinking, your writing, your creating… the stuff people are actually paying you for.  All the other “functional” stuff we must do for our businesses; the marketing, the billing, the communicating… doesn’t require the same

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Why we quit

This is a picture of my daughter a quiz in her forensic science class… This year, as a junior in high school, she started attending school virtually.  It’s the first time in her life that she was free to do her work in the way that works best for her.  She has all A’s and

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Follow that!

Kim Krause Schwalm walked past me and said,  “I’m sorry you have to follow that.” The audio guy was running a mic cable down the back of my shirt to wire me up. Sam Woods was wrapping up his Q&A with Brian Kurtz, which was running 20 minutes over, after Sam’s hour-long talk. The room

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When John met Gary

“This is shit. Write it again.” It was John’s very first day working under Gary.  He’d accepted Gary’s invitation to give up his current clients and spend a year living in L.A. to become his apprentice.  John had quickly established himself as a hot hand on the copy scene and had no problem landing projects

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Mrs. Kravitz

Three times in my life I’ve packed everything I could fit into the trunk of a used, four-door sedan and relocated thousands of miles from home. Twice towards a place, and once, away from it.  The away was Los Angeles. I’ll never forget pointing the hood of my Oldsmobile East and watching that smog pit

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EP 287: New Breed: Jason Van Orden – The Customer Awareness Spectrum

   In This Episode “Were you ever a copywriter?” I had to ask Jason this in the middle of our interview because I rarely hear anyone but us talk so deeply about the levels of customer awareness. Jason is a funnel fixer and marketing consultant for some very high-level coaches and business advisors. He’s created

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Losing it

What’s the last thing a redneck says before he dies? “Hey, y’all, watch this!” – One time my wife and I were at a Lucinda Williams concert at Jannus Live here in St. Pete.  It’s an outdoor venue. Holds a couple thousand. Bars line the perimeter. Jam-packed in the middle, where the sound is best. 

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EP 286: New Breed: Kelly Brown – Stansberry is Hiring Copywriters!

   In This Episode Kelly Brown was working at a bank and had never heard of copywriting before getting hired at Stansberry Research, where she learned directly from Mike Palmer, and is currently the Copy Chief.  Now, Kelly and the team are looking to bring on 5 new copywriters through a bootcamp they’re hosting on

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Fitting in

When I was a skinny, punk-ass 16 year-old… My step-dad, Scotty, ran a construction crew building new homes in Tampa. He was a tough-as-nails, but fun-to-be-around guy (picture Walter White and Jeff Spicoli merged as one) who had one rule on the job site: Never get outworked. That summer, rather than sit around broke watching

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Chief Chat Replay: The AI’s effect on copywriting, and how to use it to become a Creative Machine.

Timestamps: 1:00 Meet two great thinkers of the new AI copywriting world 7:00 Why copywriters are so afraid of GPT (and the pro writers’ secret to staying sane) 15:00 How to stay ahead of the curve as GPT4 takes the world by storm 30:00 Step-by-step tips for using ChatGPT in your copywriting process 35:00 Why

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EP 284: Wisdom Tree: Henry Bingaman “The threat of the cage”

   In This Episode Henry Bingaman operated at the highest possible levels of direct response copywriting for nearly 20 years… Working alongside Jedd Canty (one the greatest innovators in the industry) and Mike Ward at Money Map Press, he consistently produced the highest converting “winners” in the toughest game there – financial copywriting. If you’re

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Those who know

The truth about marketing, which very few people will admit, is that you never know what is going to work. True marketing teams comprise a gaggle of experts. Experts in predictive data.  Experts in funnel design.  Experts in messaging.  All making their most educated guesses at which angles, hooks, and prices will click in place

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EP 283: Freelancer’s Journey: How to instantly become the #1 choice for a great client

   In This Episode If you’re a freelancer, or biz owner hiring freelance copywriters, this is a MUST listen because you will learn, from a client’s point of view, what matters most when hiring a full-time copywriter. In this episode we cover… For Freelancers: How to tell a great opportunity from a potential hell gig…

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EP 281: Freelancer’s Journey: Ryan Schwartz on the magic of acting on instinct

   In This Episode Ryan Schwartz is one of the most unconventional copywriters I’ve ever met.  From cubicle hell (and praying to get laid off), to optioning screenplays, to writing a book on the challenges and revelations of breadwinning, relationships, and fatherhood (dropping in May ‘23)… and many impressive traditional copy projects along the way…

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EP 280: Freelancer’s Journey: Carolynn Ananian – Adventures of a “Path 2” copywriter

   In This Episode Carolynn Ananian did a lot of “bouncing around” as a freelance copywriter before falling in love with financial copywriting and landing her current “Dream Job” at Stansberry Research. Carolynn started out (as most of us do) as a “Path 1”, doing all the jobs to run and grow a freelance copywriting

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On writing alone

There’s an irony behind the slogan we’ve used in the Copy Chief community since 2014: “Nobody Writes Alone” The irony is more profound in the recent wake of machine learning tools that have tsunami-waved into writers’ lives.  Fact is, the ability to “write alone” is a sacred ability, and is now more critical to the

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EP 279: New Breed: Who will survive the crush of machine learning copywriting tech? with Sam Woods

   In This Episode The robots have arrived! I’ve been saying this for two years now, but most people shrugged it off as a “someday” problem. Now, “SOMEDAY” IS HERE. Of course, all the overnight experts are parachuting from the sky dressed up in their “special forces” costumes to save the day and cash in

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How much?

How’s your head? Is it wrecked from too much bottom-shelf champaign? Numb from hours of obnoxious people blowing plastic noisemakers into your ear?  (When I was a comic, some clubs would pass those things out to the new year’s crowd on the way IN to the show! Nightmare. How do you combat getting heckled by

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EP 275: New Breed: Patty Lennon – Receiving What You’re Worth

   In This Episode Ever freak out over giving a prospect your price?  There’s more to it than “nerves”. It’s likely some deep-rooted societal programming from your childhood.  Sounds kinda worse than you thought when I put it that way – lol. But, it’s actually good news, because when you recognize what’s at the root

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EP 274: Freelancer’s Journey: TzeQing (Tania) Yeo – From “trapped” to writing for Grant Cardone

   In This Episode When Tania Yeo was 18 years old she wanted to become a teacher. She found a company that would pay to send her to school overseas, and place her with a company teaching Art and English Literature.  “It was a ten-year contract that dictated every step of my life,” she explains

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EP 273: New Breed: Jamie Ryder – Aligning your personal philosophy with your copywriting

   In This Episode What do you do when your personal beliefs are at odds with your copywriting projects? The conflict is real.  There are choices to be made.  Jamie Ryder was feeling that, so he took his personal life philosophy of Stoicism into his work as a copywriter.  The results have been revolutionary, for

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EP 272: New Breed: Brandon Roe on Decoding Consumer Psychology

   In This Episode Brandon Roe was a self-described “outcast nerd” throughout his childhood.  So, he became fascinated with the psychology around what makes some people part of the “in crowd” and others relegated to being “out”. At first, he wanted to figure out how to switch camps and become more popular… Then, around the

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EP 269: New Breed: Gary Kopervas – How Big Brands Tell Great Stories

   In This Episode Brand advertising often feels like a foreign world to Direct Response marketers. But, they are far more aligned than we think, and that trend will only continue.  The big pockets publishers now focus way more effort on video platforms (VSLs, Social Media ads) than on long-form text-only platforms… and building brands

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EP 268: Wisdom Tree – Justin Goff’s Millionaire Blueprint

   In This Episode Despite becoming a Direct Response millionaire in his 30s, Justin Goff considers himself a slow learner. He spent the first few years online pinballing around from “thing to thing” trying to figure out how to make real money.  His parents were convinced he was throwing away his education. His friends thought

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How to write copy for a product using“red, yellow, and green zones” concept

Have I told you my “red, yellow, and green zones” concept for deciding how to write copy for a product? It’s a super-simplified version of Gene Schwartz’s heady concepts around Market Sophistication and Solution Awareness.  Basically, there are 3 levels of pain your product solves… Red is severe.  Like, you just got a scary call

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EP 266: Freelancer’s Journey: Daniel Throssell – World’s Most Disruptive Email Copywriter

   In This Episode “One girl wrote to me angry that I’d ruined her birthday because she spent hours ignoring her boyfriend while reading my emails.” That’s just one of the extreme replies Daniel Throssell has received from readers of his daily emails (get them at persuasivepage.com). His writing is fresh, occasionally angry, and consistently

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EP 265: Freelancer’s Journey: Brenna McGowan Is Owning It

   In This Episode In 3 short years, Brenna McGowan went from full-time Mom, to “accidental” social media manager, to email copywriter, and now the leading expert on Pre-Launch marketing strategy.  If you’ve ever felt like “there’s just no time” to do it all, and been stymied by choosing a specialty, today’s episode with Brenna

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Signs you might be burning out …don’t ignore these warnings

If you’ve been at this freelance copywriting thing for a year or so, you’re likely facing burnout.  What does burnout look like?  It’s a bit different for everybody because we’re all wired a bit differently.  The SIGNS OF BURNOUT are pretty much the same for everyone though… If you consistently ask yourself, “when’s the last

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EP 263: Wisdom Tree: Rob Dube on the 10 Disciplines for optimal living

   In This Episode This funny thing happens with high achievers (like you?)… As we’re transforming into the best versions of ourselves, we soak up tons of inspiration from self-development gurus (for me it was Jim Rohn, Earl Nightingale, Napoleon Hill, etc.)… Then, once we arrive at success, we tend to stop looking for new

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The product you are sitting on right now … it’s a shame to not collect

Would you agree that freelancing is the greatest opportunity on earth?  Think about it… You get to get paid to learn on your client’s dime… Paid to learn the skills required to produce and sell quality products… Paid to learn about YOURSELF! And which of your strongest skills will earn you the most.  PAID to

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EP 262: Coffee with Kev: The Truth About Doubling Your Copywriting Income

   In This Episode Look, I get it. Money is how we measure success.  So, the appeal of a promise that you can “double your (freelancing) income in X days” is a sexy one. We see this promise every day online and, understandably, people fall for it.  Here’s the problem: It’s not only UNREALISTIC to

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EP 261: Freelancer’s Journey: Karl Hughes – Tech Copywriting Kingpin

   In This Episode If you thought there was no market for direct response copywriters in the tech space, today’s guest will shed some new light.  Karl Hughes was leading high-profile tech teams until the lockdown freed up half his time to do what he always loved: write.  So, he started blogging in his conversational

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How to quickly and easily TRASH your copywriting career (especially if you have no experience!)

Look, I get it. Money is how we measure success.  So, the appeal of a promise that you can “skyrocket your freelancing income overnight” is a sexy one. We see this promise every day online and, understandably, people fall for it.  Now, if you’re thinking, “The people who would believe that probably don’t care about

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EP 260: Coffee With Kev – Virgin Airlines & Jack White’s Third Man Records – good and bad examples of dynamic customer experience

   In This Episode In this Coffee With Kev episode, I share some big lessons in… Customer support (via Virgin Hotels and Virgin Airlines failing hard at this) Developing your motivation into revenue (via Jack White’s elegant and inspiring Third Man empire) Strengthening your business with short, in-person mastermind events The most dramatic (and powerful)

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EP 259: Wisdom Tree: Chris Farrell “We are all going through something”

   In This Episode   Chris Farrell is a long admired and respected leader of communities where he helps people improve their lives. He’s done it with online marketing and other business skills, and now he’s building what he considers his most meaningful community yet. Here’s what he told me about it: “I want people

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the client from hell

Have you ever had a freelance gig go straight into the toilet? Happens to all of us eventually. In comedy, we call them “Hell Gigs” And they’re kinda funny. Eventually. I mean, it’s painful, believe me, to stand before a roomful of strangers, your voice amplified twelve times the natural volume, saying things everyone knows

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EP 257: Wisdom Tree: Michael Fishman – “Flag on the moon” Marketing

    In This Episode Michael Fishman has been the private insider brand consultant for the biggest health brands (Bulletproof, VitalChoice, Healthy Directions) over the last 25 years. Today we discuss… The marketing voice vs. the relationship voice… Why clear, compassionate marketing is the most persuasive, and… Who the prospect trusts least, and why… A

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EP 256: New Breed: The “List Assist” Email Strategy Planner w/ Yara Golden

   In This Episode   A really fun and insightful conversation with Yara Golden, an email copywriter who now runs her own agency strategizing and producing email content for some of the biggest names in marketing (Russel Brunson, Shanda Sumpter, Peng Joon). She started out in business as an “accidental” relationship coach after her marriage

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EP 255: Freelancer’s Journey: Rachel Mazza and Jessica Mae Stafford – Growing A “Real Business” (Phase 7 and Beyond)

   In This Episode I’m thrilled about this episode today because I get to jump all the way to Phase 7 of The Freelancers Journey Timeline and talk to you about more advanced business strategies and tactics.  If you don’t know about the Freelancers Journey – it’s a simple 7-step roadmap to freelance success. It

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LIVE in London! 60-minute sales letter workshop – It’s happening April 10th

  I’m headed to London for the first time next month, and I’m so damn excited that I decided to create a one-day-only COPY CONVERSION OPTIMIZATION WORKSHOP where I will work closely with a select group of marketers and teach them my method for… Pumping out a proven to convert sales letter in 60 minutes

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EP 254: Wisdom Tree – Gary Goldstein Mega Hollywood Producer and Champion For Creatives

    In This Episode   Gary Goldstein became the producer of Pretty Woman and other Hollywood blockbusters by seeking to help the creative forces behind those films navigate the cut-throat world of the entertainment business. Through his decades in the wild world of show business, he has never stopped being a champion for creatives.

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Making <+> connections

Later today (12:00 ET) my friend Tim Diering is teaching his unique system for harvesting Big Ideas in sales copy.  Tim is not a “guru”, except to his clients, which are billion-dollar publishers in the most competitive niches.  So, I can promise that today’s training from Tim will be unlike any you’ve seen before.  It’s

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Revenge of the introvert (intimate chat with John Carlton)

People are finally beginning to understand introverted behavior. Forever it was an “either/or” thing. But, “the great resignation” and the ability for some workers to discover how they operate best — usually AWAY from other people — even has the “big corporate work machine” mentality shifting a bit.   They’re discovering what creatives have known all

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Copy Chief Radio Podcast Episode 252 with Colin Chung

EP 252: Freelancer’s Journey: Colin Chung – “Safer than a real job.”

    In This Episode Colin Chung admits he is “terrible at small talk”, yet he cites “connecting with people and networking” as the #1 asset a freelancer can have in succeeding in business.  In this deep diving Freelancer’s Journey episode, Colin reflects on the work, and the network, that has led to his Phase

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EP 251: New Breed: Copywriting publicity tactics with Selena Soo

   In This Episode Copywriters face two hazards when writing ongoing content for clients, or themselves… Coming up with enough good ideas Connecting our ideas to relevant calendar events These usually happen in succession… In the early going you struggle to come up with ideas. Once the ideas start flowing, you almost can’t stop them,

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EP 250: New Breed: Jen Gottlieb – Connecting Through The Camera

    In This Episode There’s no avoiding the camera these days.  From conference calls to Insta updates, your camera is how you stay present with your prospects, clients, and growing audience. But it isn’t just about how to stage your background or wear your hair…  The way you speak and express yourself on camera

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CCR Ep 249

EP 249: Wisdom Tree: Carline Anglade-Cole – “Your copy sucks, you don’t”

    In This Episode Carline Anglade-Cole is relentlessly honest. So, if you put your sales copy in front of her for review, you better be prepared for a lot of notes and no punches pulled.  “Your copy sucks, you don’t,” is the loving warning shot she puts out before launching into the kind of

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EP 248: Freelancer’s Journery: Kev Kaye “What you actually need is a growth strategy.”

    In This Episode In the trendy, fast-changing world of direct response marketing, staying consistent to your marketing beliefs can be difficult. But if the foundation of what you do is focused on OUTCOMES for your client, digging in and holding steady against the trends in a strong way to position yourself.  Kev Kaye

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EP 246: New Breed: Terri Trespicio – How to thrive inside your comfort zone

    In This Episode Terri Trespicio is a creative force. A sharp-witted comedian, eloquent writer, trusted brand advisor, and world-renowned speaker with 7 million views on her TEDx talk. Her new book, Unfollow Your Passion: How To Create A Life that Matters To You is a category above the typical development book. Funny, challenging,

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EP 242: New Breed: Arthur Lih – The tricky business of saving lives

    In This Episode Today’s episode could save lives – no joke.  Arthur Lih is my guest, he’s the inventor of LifeVac (lifevac.net), a simple, plunger-like device that has saved 160+ lives (70 of them children) since he invented it.  His “reason why” story will break your heart, as will the many stories of

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Easy leads

If you’re a copywriter, there are two types of leads you can get all day long with very little effort… The “lowest bidder” leads on freelance marketplaces like Fiverr and Upwork where you’re forced to do a high volume of low dollar gigs.  (The only way to “win” this game is by living in the

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EP 241: Wisdom Tree: Ryan Lee on reinventing your business without losing your way

   In This Episode How does a high school gym teacher with dial-up internet end up starting, running, and being the face of multiple companies across vastly different niches, all without any formal business education or investors of any kind?  By not overthinking it.  Ryan Lee is a master of “ready, fire, aim” style entrepreneurship,

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Three superstar guests joining me… (guess who)

  I was recently on a Facebook live with special guests… master copywriter David Deutsch, uber-successful entrepreneur, Ryan Lee, and celebrity productivity expert, Adrienne Dorison…           Watch the replay to get an actionable preview of the kind of tactics we’ll be sharing at the upcoming Freelancing Transformation Bootcamp in November.  Over

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EP 240: Freelancer’s Journey: Laura Belgray – How To Create (And When To Kill) A Hot Offer

   In This Episode Dropping services you no longer enjoy delivering is hard for freelancers. Especially when those services are in demand. It takes a giant leap of faith to believe that by creating that space, better things will come. Copy Chief Live guest expert Laura Belgray has made a career of creating wildly popular

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EP 238: Freelancer’s Journey – Dean Edelson, ClickFunnels Senior Copywriter

   In This Episode Dean Edelson was a stand-up comic working the NYC club scene with legends like Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David… then he started writing TV promos and movie scripts in Hollywood before getting into real estate investing where he realized he loved writing the stuff to sell properties more than selling properties. 

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EP 237: Coffee With Kev – The 3 things I would teach my kids about freelancing

   In This Episode If I could corral my on-the-go teenagers for three days of focused attention, these are the 3 things I would want them to know about how to work with great clients, from anywhere, on their own terms. I came to these 3 things by reviewing what the most successful freelancers in

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EP 236: New Breed – Mike Michalowicz on how to Get Different (minus the clown shoes)

   In This Episode Best-selling author Mike Michalowicz (Profit First, Clockwork) has a new book about how to stand out in the deafening world of marketing noise. It’s called “Get Different” and it’s really good.  “This isn’t about putting on a clown costume and making the ‘wonka, wonka’ sound,” Mike clarified to start the interview…

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Here’s what I’d teach my own kids about freelancing (3 things in 3 minutes)…

I’ve got two teenagers (15 and 17) who are preparing to take on the world, so I think a lot about what I can give them to make the journey ahead a little less treacherous.  Sure, I welcome all the ass-kickings they surely will endure – and survive – because wisdom from experience is the

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EP 234: Freelancer’s Journey: Claire Fernan – The Pharmacist Turned Copywriter

   In This Episode Making the “big leap” is never an easy decision, and that’s why Claire knew if she didn’t make two of them (ending her stressful career AND marriage) simultaneously, she would likely put them off too long, or even forever.  Today you’ll hear how Claire found the courage – and the path

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EP 233: New Breed: Sammy Musgrave – Instagram Caption Copy That Converts

   In This Episode Sure Instagram is a visual platform… but if you’ve been overlooking the copy in your captions, then you’re missing the biggest conversion factor.  Copywriter and prolific Instagrammer, Sammy Musgrave is back to explain how she’s using proven copy strategies for turning scrollers into subscribers. Listen to Copy Chief Radio #233 New

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How to solve ANY freelancing problem in 10 mins or less

We’ve just opened up a very few spots in my Freelancer’s Journey Accelerator coaching program.  Accelerator is my mid-level coaching program where twice a month I host a call and give you 1-1 advice and action plans for… Resolving tricky client issues Raising your fees Specializing your services Connecting with copy-centric companies looking to hire

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EP 232: New Breed: Casey Stanton on Fractional CMO-ing

   In This Episode Fractional CMOs are essentially a hybrid of Marketing Consultant (which nobody really wants) and Chief Marketing Officer (which many companies can’t afford or aren’t yet ready for). Whether or not you feel equipped to step into a company as their fractional CMO, today’s episode will expand your thinking about… – Positioning

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The latest (and most ironic) trend in freelancing…

I just finished a call with one of the most in-demand freelancer’s I coach… He’s got a lot going on.  Full roster of well-known clients where he primarily consults on, rather than writes, their ads. A suite of training products he sells consistently for thousands in passive monthly income. Paid workshops that fill to capacity every time

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EP 231: Freelancer’s Journey: Csaba Borzasi – Growing Your Business By Showing Your Work

   In This Episode One of the fastest ways to build a strong reputation for yourself as a freelancer is to create Authority Content by simply teaching what you’re learning. Csaba Borzasi (CH-aba Bor-za-SHE) has done an amazing job of this with his recent public challenge to break down 100 Legendary Sales Letters in 100

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EP 230: New Breed: Laura Lopuch – Cold Outreach Email That Actually Work

   In This Episode Today I’m talking with Laura Lopuch who spent a gruelling three months sending cold emails into the silent void before she finally broke through and figured out why they weren’t working and what to do instead.  The results were impressive: A quickly filling schedule of clients, her emails being forwarded to

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EP 229: Freelancers Journey: Angie Colee “Making the big leaps”

   In This Episode At some point, every freelancer will face “The Leap.”  That Leap can be a calculated choice from a position of safety – for instance, finally having the confidence to quit the “main job” and go freelance full time. Or it can look more like life giving you a swift and unexpected

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EP 227: Wisdom Tree – Chris Haddad, “My brain is a very frightening place”

   In This Episode “I hear stories about how horrible I was to people, and I say, ‘I’m sure that’s true, and I’m very sorry… but I have no recollection of it’.” If you’ve ever woken up after a wild night cringing because you can’t quite remember everything you did or said the night before,

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EP 226: Coffee With Kev – Copywriting Crash Course During A Car Chase Movie Scene

   In This Episode Hey! It’s Sammy Musgrave here for Copy Chief, your comrade in freelancing and copywriting.  Tell me… how did you feel when you found out direct response copywriting was a thing? At first, I thought the chances of “making it” were as likely as starring in the next Avengers movie alongside my

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EP 225: Freelancer’s Journey: Addison Rice – His recipe for digital nomad freedom

   In This Episode Addison Rice is on one hell of an adventure. His journey into copywriting started with a question… and a Negroni. “Hey, how would you go about making money with music online?” The answer sparked a conversation that moved Addison out of Phase 0 (searching for salvation) and catapulted him into Phase

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EP 224: New Breed: Elite Email Copywriting with Chris Orzechowski

   In This Episode When it comes to learning the absolute essentials of email copywriting…  … the proven message frameworks… … the exact order of sequences, … the psychology behind every email you send (right down to the subject line), … and in what order and timeframe to send them… There is only ONE email copywriter I trust

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EP 223: New Breed: Marcella Allison – The Sexist Secret to Succeeding as a Woman in Business

   In This Episode Marcella Allison is a copywriter of the highest calibre. Her controls dominate the most aggressively competitive markets like health and finance.  If that was all she did, I could interview her endlessly on the topic of copywriting alone.  But, she does SO much more than write amazing sales copy.  Today we

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EP 222: Freelancer’s Journey: Anna Iveson – Delivering your best work – Even if you think you aren’t ready.

   In This Episode Landing your first few gigs as a freelancer can be an exhilarating combination of intense excitement and gnawing fear.  It’s natural to be nervous… after all, you want to deliver great work your client will love… but there can be a whole new set of internal fears that come leaping forward

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The best email copywriter I know?

The numbers are in, there are now over SEVEN MILLION copywriters calling themselves “email copy experts”…  … and that’s just in the dating niche! (Ba-dam, tsss) There are a few million more self-titled “email wizards” now teaching super wizardly email tactics like…  “writing as your dog”“spicing it up with memes” and “using whacky ‘from names’” Holy

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EP 221: New Breed: Johnny Crowder – Behind his TEDx talk and wild year revolutionizing digital mental health

   In This Episode “I have a confession to make… and I need your listeners to know this…” said Johnny when I asked a non-related question. His big confession was that he’d been “holding a microphone in front of his face” the entire interview, which covered his acclaimed Tedx talk, the wild financial ride of

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EP 220: Wisdom Tree – Showing up in your reader’s dreams with Laura Belgray

   In This Episode There is magic in Laura Belgray’s writing.  And she’s used it – with her email list specifically – to go from a TV Land promo writer, pumping out clever callbacks to Andy Griffith episodes… to running a seven-figure business from her couch.  All with her words.  The phrase, “I want to

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EP 219: Freelancer’s Journey – Becoming Your Own Best Client with Kevin Rogers and Rachel Mazza

   In This Episode If your freelancing business is starting to feel like a sh*tty job… and, worst part?… YOU are the nasty boss! Demanding these long hours, the “working weekends”, and now that you’re thinking about it, the pay kind of sucks, too!   Then, we feel you. Every successful freelancer we know has been

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Copy Chief Radio

EP 218: New Breed – Decision fatigue is very real (how to manage it) with Adrienne Dorison

   In This Episode Productivity expert Adrienne Dorison (RunLikeClockwork.com) is one of the experts I sought advice from last year when the pandemic poop hit the proverbial fan.  Today we’re examining the changes that actually came from working in a year in lockdown. How are we working differently, which changes are here to stay, and

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EP 217: Freelancer’s Journey – Sammy Musgrave, Going full time and loving it

   In This Episode Sammy Musgrave is a rule breaker.  She discovered her love for copywriting before she even knew it was a thing – during a sales presentation workshop… “Looking back, it was all copywriting principles – and I LOVED it.” Against their warnings, she used what she learned in that presentation to update

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The “no outcome pending” method for making big connections

Do you love April Fool’s Day?  Have you been planning for weeks exactly when to drop the plastic spider from the ceiling above the toilet and phone-record a family member screaming half-pantsed down the hallway?  That’s some Tik Tok gold right there! (forced segue alert…) But, ya know…  One place it’s ALWAYS UNCOOL to try

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Kevin Rogers Copy Chief

Hunger, Smarts, and _____ Clayton Makepeace’s 3 traits every copywriter needs

I recently joined a panel of the world’s best copywriters to honor Clayton Makepeace.  It’s been a year since the industry was rocked by his untimely death soon after being hospitalized.  His wife, Wendy, as always, was at his side as he passed. She then served as our “rock” by inspiring us with how she

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Copy Chief Radio

EP 215: Freelancer’s Journey – Ross O’Lochlainn (The original “entrepreneurial freelancer”)

   In This Episode Like so many freelancers, Ross O’Lochlainn was waiting for “just the right time” to quit his job at an engineering firm and strike out on his own full time.  Then “fate stepped in” and forced his hand.  Dive into this in-depth review of how Ross has gone from nervous newbie (Phase

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EP 214: Wisdom Tree – Frank McKinney “I trained my brain to toggle between right and left.”

   In This Episode Frank McKinney is one of the most fascinating and inspiring people I’ve ever met. Considering I met him a few minutes before this interview started, that’s saying something. This dude defies common titles…  He’s a real estate artist who’s designed and flipped 44 oceanfront homes at an average price of $14

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EP 213: Coffee With Kev – The 3 moments freelance copywriting suddenly clicked in my brain

   In This Episode A raw and rarely shared “in the moment” recording of Kevin with his private coaching group of freelance copywriters. One member asked: “When was the moment that freelancing “clicked” for you?” I couldn’t resist sharing 3 key moments… The first was with the writing itself… the second with closing clients deals…

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Copy Chief Radio

The “make or break” part of freelancing no one prepared you for

There’s a problem freelancers face when it comes to personal productivity:  Knowing how to use our time! It seems so elementary, but it’s understandable why we struggle with this. Because, as independents…  No one teaches us how to manage our own projects, let alone which things will actually grow our business and which are a

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EP 212: New Breed – The Copywriter’s Edge For Landing Publicity with Selena Soo

   In This Episode If you’re an expert at what you do – and have some case studies to show for it – then it’s time to step up and get yourself featured as an expert… on major blogs, podcasts, and even glossy magazine publications and television.  Problem is, most of us don’t know where

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EP 211: Coffe With Kev – The New Reality of Freelance Copywriting in 2021

   In This Episode Freelance copywriting changed in some significant ways in 2020, and if you’re prepared, those changes play perfectly into your hands. Today, in an intimate “Coffee with Kev” episode, I’m detailing how businesses are working differently with freelancers in 2021.  We’ve seen 5 major shifts in the marketplace, all spurned by the

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EP 209: New Breed: Peep Laja – Human Copy Testing with a New Tech Twist

   In This Episode Peep Laja has been a leader in conversion optimization for nearly a decade.  Through the thousands of complex technical tests he and the crew at ConversionXL run, they can pinpoint exactly how your marketing pages are performing, and, of course, what’s needed to make them perform better.  Of course, “the copy”

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EP 208: Wisdom Tree: Damian Lanfranchi – “The guy with no Plan B”

   In This Episode If you’ve never heard of Damian Lanfranchi, that’s mostly on purpose.  “I’ve done a lot of erasing throughout my entrepreneurial journey” he told me when I remarked that beyond his LinkedIn profile, there’s not much about him online.  It isn’t that he’s embarrassed by the different businesses he’d created before becoming

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EP 206: CCR New Breed – Perry Marshall – “There Will Be Dragons”

   In This Episode Some business experts just seem too smart, too experienced, too connected to fail.  Perry Marshall is one of those experts.  Here’s a guy who’s written not just one, but several books that became “the book” on their topic – Google Ads, Facebook Advertising, 80/20ing your sales and business.  He’s endlessly intelligent

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EP 205: CCR New Breed – The Joy and Chaos of Rebuilding Copy Chief with Kevin Rogers and Rachel Mazza

   In This Episode Call it “Copy Chief Impossible”…  Just like business makeover shows like Restaurant Impossible or (my new favorite find) Hotel Impossible… this episode is an unfiltered look behind the curtain of the intense rebuilding project to completely overhaul Copy Chief.  My business integrator Rachel Mazza and I share all the gory details

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Everything I would tell you about copywriting on a long road trip

…(as we escaped the law!) Let’s imagine that you and I were thrown together by some random “madcap” movie plotline… Something really zany, like I’ve been falsely accused of a bank heist because I’m a dead ringer for the actual bank robber (played by Bryan Cranston)… who the cops don’t know just escaped through the

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David Deutsch Wisdom Tree

EP 204: CCR Wisdom Tree – A conversation with David Deutsch

   In This Episode David Deutsch is an A-List Copywriter in the truest sense… he started at Ogilvy and Mather (when Ogilvy was still leading the troops), pioneered the “magalog” style of direct mail sales letters, and has written for or consulted just about every major player in the industry for the over three decades. 

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EP 203: CCR New Breed – Dominic Hodgson’s plan to dominate the luxury pet care niche (and beyond)

   In This Episode Dominic Hodgson took an unconventional route to building an internet marketing empire – dog walking. In this loose and insightful conversation, Dom explains how he gained an immediate advantage by niching down into the “luxury pet care” market – targeting wealthy pet owners and offering not just a “dog walk”, but

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EP 202: CCR Freelancer’s Journey – Chris Orzechowski – “Embrace the work”

   In This Episode In the six years I’ve been coaching freelance copywriters, no one has blasted through the first 6 (of 7) Phases of the Freelancer’s Journey faster than Chris Orzechoski. Four years ago this guy was teaching high school and coaching wrestling, and now he’s running his own agency. Like, a real agency,

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The “invisible” reason why sales copy thrives or dies

  What makes the difference between a piece of copywriting that stirs a deeply positive emotional reaction in the reader… and one that has them trashing it immediately. Or worse… forwarding it to a government agency as a potential scam? Very different reactions, clearly.  And yes, the stakes really are that high.  The difference comes

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Copy Chief Radio

EP 201: CCR Wisdom Tree – Carline Anglade-Cole – The Copy Control Queen

   In This Episode Carline’s new book, My Life As A 50+ Year-Old White Male is a rollicking ride through her life as a Haitian immigrant in the U.S., a colorful childhood with a tough love twist, becoming an A-List copywriter known as “queen of the control”, and raising children to understand the power of

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EP 199: If Brands Told Jokes with Adam Hunt of White Label Comedy

   In This Episode Adam Hunt runs White Label Comedy, a done-for-you social media copywriting service that helps companies stand out with tweets and ad copy that build trust and engagement with humor. (A topic very close to my heart.) He recently joined Copy Chief and began devouring the training and applying what he learned

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The entrepreneur’s “DNA test” (which type are you?)

  Wanna know what defines an entrepreneur? It isn’t the “billion dollar” ideas… Or the scrappy rebelliousness… Or even the ability to create revenue. Those things are inherent in most entrepreneurs, but also in wantrepreneurs – those who chatter about starting a business but never make the leap.  To me, what defines an entrepreneur is

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EP 197: Can Harmon Brothers make stock tips funny? (ad breakdown with creators)

   In This Episode You’ve surely seen the hilarious viral video ads for products like Squatty Potty (with the famous ice cream-pooping unicorn), Purple Mattress, Lume Deodorant, and Poo Pourri. Those ads are made by Harmon Brothers and have single-handedly revolutionized the world of Direct Response marketing by using bold humor to interrupt the long-running

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EP 196: Realities of California’s new AB 5 “freelancing law” with Peter Hoppenfeld

   In This Episode The world’s coolest marketing lawyer, Peter Hoppenfeld, is back to discuss California’s AB 5 statute that is wreaking havoc for the “gig economy” out there. Some in the freelancing community are fretting about how this could affect the nature of how Independent Contractors do business. Should you be scared?Are freelancers losing

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EP 195: Mike Rinard’s (it was ugly for a minute) Freelancing Journey

   In This Episode Mike Rinard has his business running smooth on all cylinders right now. He’s been a frequent guest on CCR talking about his story-driven copywriting frameworks that are outperforming everything else on Facebook, and how he’s created a long string of super successful workshops and “mini-offers” to his growing email list.  Today,

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Ep 194: From Old School Hustle To Internet Marketing Muscle with Jay Jackson

   In This Episode Jay Jackson began his rise to marketing expert status legit old school hustle style – hanging out in the parking lot of Whole Foods pitching customers on his fitness training as they scurried nervously to their cars.  Then he discovered the world of online marketing and quickly tripled his income. Now,

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Copy Chief Radio

Ep 193: The Art of The One-Sided Conversation (5-min coffee break)

   In This Episode As copywriters, mastering the one-sided conversation is a major part of our job. We assemble the people we’ll be talking ‘to’ (our customer avatars) from research, and some real-life people who match the audience, then go about constructing a very personal conversation that hopefully triggers no threat alarms at all. No

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Ashlee Berghoff

Ep 191: More time for the “big buck stuff” with Ashlee Berghoff

   In This Episode Ever feel like all those books on productivity just don’t apply to you and your freelancing biz? That’s because running a freelance business IS different than other businesses – especially in early days when it’s JUST YOU doing everything. Yet, many of the freelancers I coach have been able to win

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Ep 99: The Secret Selling Power of “Tutorial Videos” with David Power

   In This Episode “Tutorial Video” sounds boring, right? We’ll that’s because most people do them all wrong. Coming on today’s podcast is David Power. He’s going to share a blueprint for creating a simple tutorial video funnel to generate new leads and customers for your business. Plus, how to harness the power of video

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Ep 156: How Ryan Levesque is Revolutionizing Direct Response Marketing – Again

   In This Episode I don’t blame you for questioning whether Ryan Levesque is an actual machine. In 3 years he’s taken his ASK Method process for customizing your copy and marketing to dizzying heights. His company was recently ranked #462 on the Inc. 500 list of Fastest Growing Companies in America and named the

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Ep 155: Tepsii – The “Dynamic Avatar Method” For Writing High-Converting Copy

   In This Episode What do you think sets a pro copywriter apart from a good copywriter? It’s your ability to make your reader FEEL something using your words. When you write copy, you want your ideal buyer to say, “Where do I buy this right now?”… Or, “I feel like you were speaking directly

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Ep 97: Avoid These Copywriter Career Killers with Angie Colee

   In This Episode If communication is the key to a good client-copywriter relationship… Then your ability to communicate well determines your level of success. That’s why I brought on my good friend Angie Colee. Angie is our lead Ambassador in the Copy Chief community, and it’s not an exaggeration to say she gives life-changing

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Ep 96: Breaking Down Big Ideas Behind Million Dollar Ad Campaigns (with an All Star Copy Panel)

   In This Episode Wanna know the fastest way to become an in-demand copywriter? It’s learning to break down the copy to its essence. If you can break it down (and understand the WHY behind the copy) then you know what it takes to write the kind of copy no perfect prospect can resist reading.

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Ep 154: Bond Halbert – Copy Secrets From A Legend In Direct Response

   In This Episode This man needs no introduction. Bond Halbert is the son of the great Gary Halbert, a man who left a giant thumbprint on the direct response industry… If Gary’s name doesn’t sound familiar, he probably the copywriter you started studying when you were starting out. In fact, Gary Halbert was one

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Ep 93: The Simple LinkedIn “Twist” For Connecting With Your Best Prospects with Irene Scott

   In This Episode One click nearly cost me $10,000. That click was to LinkedIn where today’s guest, a LinkedIn optimization expert, saw that I had NO profile there. Actually, it was worse than that. “There was just an old picture, and it was quite scary,” Irene Scott told me during the interview. See, Irene

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Ep 151: Laura Belgray – How To Steal Attention With Strange Copy (Then Keep It With Good Writing)

   In This Episode “I’m going to eat my face now.” That subject line, “I’m going to eat my face now” is the 12th most popular (by open rate) in Laura’s list of her top 33. (You can get a link to them all in the show notes) My favorite interviews are the ones with

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Ep 91: How Copy Can Save Your PPC Campaigns (AdWords Case Study) with Zach Goldie

   In This Episode Back when I started out in direct response, the fastest way to generate new leads was using Google AdWords. These days, Facebook Ads is all the rage. But if you’re a business owner, you may be wondering, “What’s the difference between the two? And isn’t Facebook cheaper?” To answer that, I

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Ep 150: Bushra Azhar – The Reverse Sign Up Method For Building A List of Buyers

   In This Episode The real backbone of your business isn’t just building a list. To make in this cutthroat industry, you’ve got to build a list of buyers. Today, I’ve got Bushra Azhar on the show. When she came into the world of direct response and copywriting, she was already a high-level corporate consultant

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Ep 90: The Magic of “Paid On Results” Offers with Ross O’Lochlainn

   In This Episode I often cite Ross O’Lochlainn as the “poster child” for the Entrepreneurial Freelancer. That’s the kind who, rather than grow a business driven by traditional copy client projects, discovers a “super ability” they’re passionate about and creates a high-value service around that. For Ross, it was helping business owners define their

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Ep 149: Jon Stoltzfus – The Most In-Demand Copywriter On The Planet Right Now

   In This Episode Jon Stoltzfus is currently the most in-demand copywriter in the industry. He’s an engineer who loves his work and makes a very comfortable living. He’s also a damn good copywriter. He’s been creating super strong controls in his part-time. He’s about to make the leap into full time copywriting, because when

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Ep 89: All In With One Copy Client? The Pros And Cons with Carolynn Ananian

   In This Episode If you’re a freelancer, chances are at one point or another you’ve considered going full-time with one client. Good idea? Could be. It could also become a nightmare. Our friend Carolynn Ananian is here to help you navigate your path. She’s been on both sides, as a freewheeling freelancer with multiple

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Ep 148: Justin Brooke – How To Make (And Keep) A Bunch Of Money With Cold Traffic Ad Buys

   In This Episode Just hung up the call with Justin Brooke from adskills.com. He’s the most sought-after traffic guy in the game right now. Also one of the best teachers about how to convert on cold traffic, which is the HOLY GRAIL of any marketing business. We went deep into the psychology of winning

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Ep 147: Mike Morgan – An Introvert’s Path To Copywriting Royalty Status

   In This Episode “I get asked to do these every week and I always say ‘no’ because I hate doing interviews… but with you I feel pretty good.” Truth is before now I didn’t realize Mike Morgan was an extreme introvert. We’ve had some night of gut-busting laughter together hanging out with our friends.

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Ep 87: Allison Carpio – The Naked Truth About What Motivates Your Customer Avatars

    In This Episode The old method of defining a SINGLE profile for your best customer is no longer a reality. That’s because modern society is way more diverse than it was even 10 years ago. These days we self-select our information, our entertainment, and our social cultures. That means we need to be

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Ep 86: Next Level Testimonials Using A Simple Story Technique with Scott McKinstry

    In This Episode Imagine you’re thinking about buying something. You stop by the store, check a few things out, and decide “Ehh, maybe not right now…” On your way out, you see some testimonials from past customers. You think, “Huh. I wonder what this is about…” You see, most people are pros at

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Ep 144: Carline Anglade-Cole – Sex, Drugs and Writing Controls

   In This Episode If you love “copy”, you’re gonna dig this interview with Carline Anglade-Cole. For those who aren’t familiar with this A-List writer, Carline is one of the best direct response copywriters of all time. She’s legendary in the health publication business. Her credits include a slew of controls for publishers like Healthy

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Ep 84: Matt Mason – From Zero Freelance Gigs To Being Courted By The Big Publishers

   In This Episode What does it take for a raw beginner to work with some of the top names in the direct response industry? Back in October, I hosted Copy Chief Live. If you didn’t get to attend, the event was all about connecting pro copywriters with business owners who needed writers. Everything about

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Ep 143: Tom Breeze – How To Capture YouTube Viewers Before They “Skip” Your Ad

   In This Episode “YouTube is the place where the world goes to watch a video. Right now, the standard experience is we press play… and a completely irrelevant ad pops up on your screen.” Tom said during our interview. “The secret to effective YouTube advertising is giving your viewer a great experience… so they

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Ep 83: Building your authority as a freelancer (even if you’re new-ish) with Melanie Warren

   In This Episode Establishing credible authority in your marketplace as a freelancer is one of the most powerful ways to fast track your career. Thing is, this whole “stepping up as an authority” comes standard with a lot of head trash. One of the most common mental hurdles is getting over the idea that

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Ep 142: Andrew Lermsider – 5 Easy Fixes That Instantly Boost Revenue on Your Website

   In This Episode Most businesses make the mistake of handing the marketing reigns over to technology. And they chase the latest and greatest “shiny tools” thinking it’ll move their profit needle. Reality is, this is one of the biggest sales killers in your business… and the fastest way to burn your budget without boosting

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Ep 141: Justin Blackman – What Justin Learned Writing 100 Headlines A Day (For 100 Days)

   In This Episode “I was doing a hot seat at a mastermind group to figure out what niche to write for as a copywriter. And someone goes: ‘Why don’t you write 100 headlines a day for 100 days?’” Justin said during our interview. “Truth is… I was too dumb at the time to say

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[TAM] Ep 140: Elin Marie – Elin’s Ten Step Control-Beating Copy Process

   In This Episode Reality is, copywriting IS research. Any veteran copywriter will tell you they spend more than half a project’s time just on research. It’s where you’ll stumble upon all the juicy hooks, BIG ideas, and bold angles you need for a successful promo. So it’s no surprise top writers make research a

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[CCR] Ep 80: Can Your Passion Hobby Be Your Business? (Case study with Craig Beckta)

   In This Episode The single biggest challenge for marketers selling expertise is how much to give away for free… without blowing the sale by giving away the farm. Reality is, it’s a fine line between building goodwill with upfront value… and getting carried away with teaching too much. So… how do you build goodwill

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[TAM] Ep 139: My Best Advice For Freelancers

   In This Episode “The reason people wanna become freelancers is we’re rebels, man. We’re outcasts… we don’t really fit into a regular job structure.” We’re doing something new this episode. There’s no guest! It’s a “one-sided” conversation plucked out of a previous interview I did about freelancing. As you already know, the freelancer’s journey

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Ep 138: Erik Stafford – Attention-Grabbing Design Secrets That’ll Beef Up Your Sales Message

   In This Episode “For the longest time… it was always about the copy. But things are changing.” Erik said during our interview. “Right now, 65% of people are visual learners. So you’ve gotta start paying attention to that stuff. Most businesses completely overlook that.” My guest today is design specialist Erik Stafford. Erik helps

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Ep 78: The “FIRE” Formula For Finding Your Market’s Biggest Needs with Catie Harris

   In This Episode Here’s the thing, all great businesses start with the basic idea of tackling a problem that NEEDS solving.  This eliminates most of the friction and resistance from your prospects… because they’re LOOKING for someone to step up and relieve the pain. Reality is, most marketers overlook clear cut opportunities to solve

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Ep 137: Susan Berkley – Sharpen Your “Spoken Image” With The Industry’s Top Voice Coach

   In This Episode Believe it or not, within seconds of hearing you speak… your prospects form lasting impressions about YOU and your business based on the sound of your voice. Your spoken image is a BIG part of your brand. This is why some of the best marketers and salespeople hone their rapport-building voice.

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Ep 77: The “Remarketing Generator” Method To Getting Cheaper Clicks with Matt Ambrose

   In This Episode Reality is, ad click costs are higher than ever. Gone are the days of 30 cent clicks. Now, you’ll pay upwards of $3 for a single click in competitive niches like finance and health. And it’s only gonna get pricier to advertise as more marketers flood the internet. Plus, the recent

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Ep 136: Hollis Carter – From Rafting Guide To Top Level Biz Consultant

   In This Episode “What’s really special about this is that there is NO model,” Hollis said during our interview. “All the stuff we’ve done before in direct response follows someone’s system or formula. It always felt too systematic.” Former rafting guide turned Baby Bath Water Institute co-founder Hollis Carter joins me on the show.

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Ep 76: Money-Making Health Headline Strategies with Jason Rutkowski

   In This Episode Most marketers believe a “big benefit” driven headline is all you need for a successful ad. Truth is, that’s not gonna cut it anymore in today’s more sophisticated markets. Especially if you’re in the health space. In fact—chances are your perfect prospect has already seen your headline or “hook” before. So…

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Ep 75: How You Can Use Basic Songwriting Principles To Guarantee Powerful Copy with Addison Rice (Part 2)

   In This Episode Singer-songwriter and premiere copywriter Addison Rice returns to the show today for the second episode of a two-part series where we go DEEP on how you can use the basics of songwriting to beef up your sales copy. If you haven’t heard the first part, go back and check it out

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Ep 135: Marketing Masters Highlights with John Carlton, Todd Brown and Joe Schriefer

   In This Episode We’re only a week away from our first ever Copy Chief Live event. On top of some of the most prolific copywriters sharing the secrets behind their most successful campaigns… … we’ve also got top-of-the-heap marketers gracing the stage and sharing insider tactics that’ll multiply your sales faster than you ever

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Ep 74: How You Can Use Basic Songwriting Principles To Guarantee Powerful Copy with Addison Rice

   In This Episode Reality is, copywriting is much like a performance art. And one consistent thing I see in great copywriters is… … they all have an interesting hobby or passion that fuels their creativity. In fact, the most compelling copy usually packs a rhythmic punch just like a good song. So it’s no

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Ep 134: Copywriting Legends Highlights with Henry Bingaman, Marcella Allison and Parris Lampropoulos

   In This Episode We’re doing something a little different for this week’s episode. As you may know, our first ever Copy Chief Live event is just around the corner. And we’ve got some of the most accomplished and respected copywriters and marketers in the game taking the podium… … and sharing insider secrets and

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Ep 133: John Forde – Great Leads and Learning From Losers With Agora’s Top Freelancer

   In This Episode “Copywriting isn’t exactly a writing gig…” John said to me during our interview. “Once you start thinking of it as just ‘writing ads’… you risk writing stuff that sounds good… but isn’t persuasive.” Former $15/hour article writer turned prolific copywriter John Forde joins me on the show today. John is one

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Ep 73: Freelancer’s Guide To Closing Deals (Part 2) with Casey Stanton

   In This Episode Today’s episode is the second of a 2-part series with Casey Stanton. If you missed the first one, recommend you go back and check it out here before diving into this one. Casey is a former Tulane University professor who specializes in helping 7 and 8 figure health and fitness businesses grow

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Ep 132: Marcella Allison – Why Women Need to Band Together in a Testosterone-Fueled Business World

   In This Episode “This isn’t about burning bras and marching on Washington.  This is about empowering more women to step up and share their knowledge and experience with the world.” Marcella said during our interview. “If you want more women on the stage, don’t wait for a man to ask you to speak… build

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Ep 72: Freelancer’s Guide To Closing Deals (Part 1) with Casey Stanton

   In This Episode “Sales is developing relationships with people, so that when they have a need… they come to YOU to solve it. That’s sales.” Casey said during our interview. “If you’re just in it to squeeze money out of as many people as possible… you’re not gonna succeed long term.” In this two

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Ep 131: Marc Gutman – Better Storytelling From The Guy Oliver Stone Trusted To Find The Best Ones

   In This Episode Today, If you want to grab someone’s attention… it’s no longer enough to just tell a compelling story. You’ve also got to get specific. Most stories fall flat because we’re afraid of diving deep and getting specific in our tales. Reality is, that’s exactly what you must do to tap into

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Ep 130: Mark Ford – Hard Lessons From The Most Interesting Man In Direct Response

   In This Episode “The most common problem with people giving marketing advice today is they’re focusing on offering a 12% lift in conversions here, or 16% there…” Mark said to me during our interview. “What I teach is that this is BS. You’re wasting your time trying to build your business with small increments

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Ep 70: Selling A Million Bucks In Guns Through Email (What Bob Learned) with Bob Conroy

   In This Episode Here’s an undeniable marketing truth: Email remains one of the most powerful ways to sell your product or service today… no matter your market. In fact—you can even sell expensive, high-end physical products to skeptical customers who demand first-class craftsmanship with just email… if you do it right. So… how can

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Ep 129: Taylor Welch – The Business-Boosting Power Of Humor And Personality

   In This Episode Here’s the thing: Overwhelm is the #1 business killer for even top entrepreneurs and marketers. There’s too much you CAN do at any point in time… … so it’s easy to fall prey to the “long to-do list” trap, and neglect the critical stuff that actually multiplies your income. So… how

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Ep 69: The Secret To Attracting Difference-Making Donations with Abbey Woodcock

   In This Episode Reality is, it’s now tougher than ever to attract donations. Seems like everyone has a GoFundMe page these days… … making it hard to stand out and pull-in some bucks for your cause. So… what can you do to get more eyeballs on your donation page… and attract more difference-making cash

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Ep 68: Tjark Hartmann’s Journey From Freelancer To Product Creator

   In This Episode The reality is, most marketers make bold promises they can’t really keep… and they do it without thinking about the severity of the prospect’s situation. If you’re in this game for the long haul… you’ve got to take responsibility for how your content, product, or service will impact someone’s life. Thing

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Ep 127: Bedros Keuilian – The “Cockweed” Mindset For Rock-Solid Success

   In This Episode Here’s the thing: today you can pass so much MORE emotion to your prospects using a short 1-min video, than a bunch of pictures and text… … and when you can show RESULTS quickly─with case studies and narration─you have the power to indoctrinate prospects into buyers, fast. So, how do you

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Ep 67: No More “Surveys” – The Sales-Multiplying Power Of Asking Good Questions with Ann Irza

   In This Episode Here’s a marketing truth: When you ask your prospects the right questions, you’ll never wonder what to offer them next. Most business owners and marketers make the mistake of asking the wrong questions… or worse, they ask their prospects complex questions. (Even if you think it’s crystal-clear to you… it’s likely

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Ep 126: Damian Lanfranchi – The Secret To An Entrepreneurial Life That’ll Never Pass You By

   In This Episode “I wanted to wake up everyday excited to start my day, but everyone I worked with was just waiting for Friday to come…” Damian said to me during our interview. “I never wanted to be one of those people who say ‘oh well, life just flies by doesn’t it?…’” My guest

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Ep 66: The Hidden Selling Power Of Meme Marketing with Austin Lee

   In This Episode Here’s the thing: social media isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. And with over 700 million users per month on Instagram alone… … it’s important you start paying attention to the hidden selling power of this medium. In fact, there’s a lot in common between the strongest sales messages… and the most

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Ep 65: Beating Back “Writer’s Block” And Finding Your Flow with Angie Colee

   In This Episode My standard philosophy on “writer’s block” is, if it’s happening, you haven’t done enough research John Carlton taught me this and I’ve found it to be very true. However, there are times when you’ve got a hard deadline looming, or you don’t have the time to dive deep into your topic…

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Ep 125: John Romaniello – Leapfrogging Your Competition With Superior Writing Chops

   In This Episode Here’s an indisputable truth… Honing your writing chops is the fastest way to set yourself apart in a crowded market. In fact, just by being a BETTER writer than your competition, you’ll leapfrog your rivals and build a loyal following faster than you imagined possible. So… how do you sharpen your

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Ep 64: Tapping The Deepest Desires Of The $750 Billion Dollar “Over 55” Market with Julie Luedtke

   In This Episode The over 55 market boasts over 750 Billion dollars in spending power. Today I’ve got Julie Luedtke on the show. Julie is 72, just ran a 10K (6 miles) charity event… … and is on a MISSION helping people over 55 get fit, and live life with a passion that gives

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Ep 124: Joe Schriefer – How Agora Financial Will Generate $170M This Year (And Why Joe Wants You To Be Their New Copywriter)

   In This Episode The most important thing in marketing today is emotion. If you don’t stir enough emotion in your prospect, your message is as good as dead. One of the most powerful ways to hit the emotional hot buttons of your buyers is coming up with fresh, new, even dangerous ideas worth testing.

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Ep 63: How To Write Visually and Spring Your Sales Copy to Life with Henry Bingaman

   In This Episode Smooth writing and a great story are useless if you don’t tie ’em into your promotion. One of the biggest mistakes even top copywriters make is losing themselves in the writing and forgetting the purpose of the ad. And if your visual language doesn’t fit the promo like a glove, you’ll

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Ep 123: Wesley Donehue – Business-Boosting Lessons From The Cut-Throat World Of Crisis Communication

   In This Episode Your audience craves transparency and authenticity more than ever. In fact, you’re more likely to hit your buyer’s emotional hot buttons shooting a real, raw video straight from your iPhone… … than splurging on a big budget production from some high-end agency. And the game is changing so fast, even political

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Ep 62: How to quickly indoctrinate cold prospects to your product with Amanda “Indoctrinatrix” Foxcroft

   In This Episode I gave her the nickname, The Indoctrinatrix for a good reason; she’s really good at helping you draw in your best prospects and then dominating the market. See, most marketers and business owners fail to indoctrinate prospects the right way… … and just because something is crystal clear to you, it

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Ep 61: The Amazing “Copy-Boarding” Process That Flips Sales Objections into Benefits with Abbey Woodcock

   In This Episode One of the biggest mistakes marketers and copywriters make is assuming the prospect will read your entire message. They won’t. In fact, most readers are LOOKING for that one paragraph that gives them the perfect excuse to click away and forget all about you. So… how do you make sure you’ve

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Ep 60: How to avoid “scope creep” in copy projects with Dean Edelson

   In This Episode “Scope creep” IS an illness in this industry… and right now, you’re likely getting taken for a ride by “well-meaning” clients, who aren’t even aware how devastating this is for a freelancer. So… how do you rid yourself of “scope creep”, without ruining your relationships with clients? Copywriter Dean Edelson returns

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Ep 59: The BAR Method For Addictive Storytelling with Carolynn Ananian

   In This Episode It’s more important than ever to inject persuasive stories into your marketing. In fact, just “telling a story” won’t cut it with today’s attention spans. You’ve got to hook ’em fast… otherwise they’ll click away and buy from someone else. So… how do you tell a story so good that you

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Ep 119: Anna Selby – The “Dream 50 Secret” To Conquering Social

   In This Episode My guest today is social media specialist Anna Selby. She helps clients market their businesses and grow their audiences on social media. She has also worked with top-of-the-heap entrepreneur Gary Vaynerchuk. “I was like the Black Sheep Kanye West of Real Estate…” Anna said, laughing during our interview. “I had an

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Ep 58: How Freelancers Jump To The Next Level (Without Burning Out) with Pete Michaels

   In This Episode As a freelancer, you absolutely must carve out some daily “white space” to recharge your creative battery. Ignore this―like most freelancers do (especially earlier in the game)―and it’ll only be a matter of time before you burnout. So… how do you strike the perfect balance between doing good work and staying

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Ep 118: Roy Furr – The PAISA Framework For Writing Rock-Solid Financial Controls

   In This Episode “We talk a lot about entering the conversation already going on in your prospect’s head… but what does that really mean?” Roy said during our interview. My guest today is top copywriter Roy Furr. He has written control-busting copy for the likes of Bill Bonner and Mark Ford at Agora. Roy

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Ep 57 – Secrets of a High-Converting Email Affiliate Funnel with Chris Orzechowski

   In This Episode Here’s the reality: Most of your prospects are seeing the same cut-and-paste emails promoting a product launch… … and it’s because business owners shelve crafting compelling launch copy till it’s too late. This kills your sales. So, how do you quickly inject high-converting emails into your launch without burning your budget?

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Ep 117: Perry Marshall – The “Homer Simpson Trick” For Attracting Your Perfect Prospect

   In This Episode “I’ve never had a conversation quite like this before…” Perry said to me as we wrapped up the interview. “This was not the standard set of canned answers…” My guest today is a decorated veteran of internet marketing who has been in the game since 2003. Former engineer turned marketing consultant

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Ep 56 – The Hidden Seductive Power Of Product Descriptions with Angie Colee

   In This Episode Here’s the thing: most product descriptions are a snooze fest… … and you’re likely losing sales by overlooking the power of benefit-packed product descriptions. So… how do you write a compelling product description that forces your prospects to ignore your competition and buy only from you? Today I’ve got e-commerce specialist

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Ep 55 – How To Give (And Get) A Great Interview with Fabienne Raphael

   In This Episode “I could tell my guest was pissed and uncomfortable being there…” Fabienne said in our interview. “At the end of it my guest goes ‘You should have done more research on me before the interview… I could tell you’re not experienced…’” Shy, stiff, and sticking to scripted questions… … Fabienne Raphaël

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Ep 54 – How To Be More Human Through Automation with Mike Rinard

   In This Episode Here’s the reality: You’re likely addicted to getting the sale―like most marketers are―without even knowing it… … and your prospects can FEEL it. In fact―the harder you chase the sale, the farther away it slips from you… and these days, prospects are not giving you a second chance. So… how do

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Ep 53 – How to prove your value like a lawyer proves facts with Candice Lazar

   In This Episode Proof is the lifeblood of your sales message… … and with today’s hyper aware consumer, it’s more critical than ever that you nail your offer’s proof. (In fact–your prospect is waiting for you to get this wrong, so they’ll have the perfect excuse to click away and buy somewhere else) Here’s

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Ep 113: Jim Breuer – How The Former SNL Star Revived His Career With Social Media

   In This Episode “I’m addicted to murdering on stage… I want to hurt you,” Jim said in our interview. “Once I fell in love with doing this again and discovered my real mission, I became unstoppable.” My guest today is stand-up comedian Jim Breuer. He’s famous for co-starring with Dave Chappelle in “Half-Baked” and

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Ep 52 – How to develop a voice that cannot be ignored with Jody Raynsford

   In This Episode Would you be shocked to know that striving to “develop your authentic voice” is actually killing your connection with your audience? Here’s the thing: most sales copy your prospect reads comes off bland (even if you think you wrote something completely unique)… … and without a confident voice leading your prospect

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Ep 112: Sean McCabe – The Truth About Monetizing Your Passion, Risk-free

   In This Episode “I posted my lettering work for two years and no one even bothered to look…” Sean said during our interview. Sean McCabe started out cleaning windows―almost getting himself killed in the process―and repairing computers to pay the bills. When he wasn’t working, he was completely immersed in his love for hand

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Ep 51 – What I learned Writing Copy For Frank Oz with Hillary Styles

   In This Episode “Frank Oz sits me down to review the draft and goes: ‘This writing is too cute for this project’…” Hillary told me during our interview. Today copywriter Hillary Styles joins me on the show. She’s currently helping Frank Oz with the sales copy for a new documentary. (He’s the puppeteer behind

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Ep 111: Terry Dean – The Truth About The Selling Power Of List Indoctrination

   In This Episode “I was going door-to-door trying to sell satellite dishes to the Amish… I sold a grand total of zero…” Terry told me during our interview. Introverted, stuck delivering pizzas for $8 an hour, and bombing hard in belly-to-belly sales… … Terry Dean turned it all around and is now flourishing in

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Ep 50 – Why you must understand the conscious consumer with Pauline Longdon

   In This Episode There’s a new reality about to dominate the marketing world: Your customers are more hyper aware than ever… … this “conscious consumer” sees everything you’re doing. Stay blind to this critical shift and your business will die off like the dinosaurs. (And if you’re thinking this is just another fad─like most

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Ep 49 – The Revenue-Boosting Power of Sub-Niching Your Product with Jason Leue

   In This Episode Here’s the reality: It’s one thing to sell something on a platform like Amazon… … but to sell your product or service on your own website (with cold traffic) is the Holy Grail of sales for your business. Today, former animator turned online entrepreneur Jason Leue joins me on the show.

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Ep 110: Jesse Elder – The Truth About Having Nothing To Prove And Nothing To Hide

   In This Episode “I got hooked up to this brain machine… and the doctor said that in 75,000 sessions, he’d only ever seen one other person with brain waves like mine…” Jesse told me during our interview. Even though he’s been a personal mentor and close ally for years, I’m always on the edge

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Ep 48 – How To Beat Back Impostor Syndrome And Thrive with Max Hamm

   In This Episode Do your heroes and favorite experts struggle with the same mental hurdles you wrestle with in your business? Here’s the thing: Everyone has Impostor Syndrome at one point or another. No one’s safe from it… … and if you never have it, you’re probably a sociopath! Today freelance copywriter Max Hamm

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Ep 47 – The Huge Opportunity Hiding In Short Explainer Videos with Dean Edelson

   In This Episode What if you can get your prospects hanging on to every word of your sales copy like they were kids hypnotized by their favorite cartoon? Today, former screenwriter and stand-up comic turned copywriter, Dean Edelson joins me on the show. Dean helps high-level clients craft compelling marketing messages using explainer videos.

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Ep 46 – Spice Up Your Messages with “Snapshot Copywriting” with Pete Michaels

   In This Episode You ever notice how people are happy to carry around a thousand page Stephen King novel? What if it was possible for you to connect with prospects so strongly that they can’t stop reading your sales copy? Today freelance copywriter and Copy Chief founding member Peter Michaels joins me on the

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“Best Of” Episode 48: Ivan Misner – Billion Dollar Networking

   In This Episode If you’re not hip to Ivan Misner and his incredible entrepreneur-connecting group called BNI, then buckle up for an inspiring ride. Get your head around these numbers… 7200 meetings worldwide 190,000 members $8.6 Billion in revenue via shared leads for members All in 2016! The secret? As Dr. Misner explains in

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Ep 107: Kim Schwalm – Consistently Beating Control Ads

   In This Episode Kim Krauss Schwalm is the perfect follow-up to Clayton Makepeace’s copywriting masterclass. Kim is a top-level copywriter Brian Kurtz couldn’t hire fast enough to work for Boardroom… … where she became the first ever female copywriter to beat one of their controls (her first Boardroom project out-performed a 7-year Parris Lampropoulos

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Ep 44 – The Rocky Balboa Guide To A/B Split Testing with Allison Carpio

   In This Episode Here’s the reality when it comes to testing: There are no “failed” split tests. You’re always one step closer to your big win with every test… if you do it right. Today I’ve got freelance copywriter and A/B testing specialist, Allison Carpio, on the show. She has helped clients in her

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Ep 106: Clayton Makepeace – Selling on Emotion ($1.5 Billion Worth!)

   In This Episode Clayton Makepeace is the mind behind ads that sold a Billion and a half dollars worth of products in the health and financial markets. There aren’t many copywriters alive who can bring a whopping four decades of in-the-trenches experience to the table. So naturally, Makepeace is also one of the most

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Ep 105: James Schramko – “Reprogramming” Your Brain For Success

   In This Episode Imagine reading what your babysitter thought of you when you were 4-years-old. Would it foreshadow the persona you are now, or would you be shocked at what you read? James Schramko, founder of SuperFastBusiness.com, is known for taking entrepreneurs under his wing and showing them the amazing world of “wealthification“. As

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Ep 104: Frank Kern – Becoming The “Rolling Stones Of Marketing” (Then Quitting The Band)

   In This Episode “I’ve only done like three podcast interviews…” Frank told me just before rolled tape. I knew right then this would be extra juicy, and I wasn’t disappointed. If you’ve been around marketing for more than a hot minute, you know the legend of Frank Kern. He pioneered online video as we

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Ep 41 – How To Build Customer Loyalty Like The Big Brands With Nicole Piper

   In This Episode If you’re in business for yourself and you’ve always thought “I don’t need a brand”… I’ve got some eye-opening news for you today. Here’s the reality: You have a brand identity right now. Either you are controlling it, or your audience is creating it on their own. My guest today, Nicole

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Ep 103: Marcella Allison – The Truth About Speaking Your Customer’s Language

   In This Episode Today you’re in for a treat. My guest is Marcella Allison and she’s the perfect guest to follow two epic episodes with Parris Lampropoulos. Why? Because she is one of the few writers that top-of-the-heap A-Listers including Parris, and David Deutsch look to team with first when it’s time to beat

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Ep 39 – Freelancers: Why You’re Not Getting Hired Pt 2 With Abbey Woodcock

   In This Episode Abbey is a freelancer herself, and recently switched to the other side of the table when she needed to hire some writers. She was surprised to see how many applicants were making foolish mistakes ruining their chances of landing the gig. These are common mistakes that most employers never share with

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Ep 101: Parris Lampropoulos – Next-Level Persuasive Copywriting Pt. 1

   In This Episode Parris Lampropoulos is universally regarded as one of the best living copywriters. He’s a face on Brian Kurtz “Mount Rushmore of Copywriters” for the record number of control ads and revenue generated at Boardroom. His list of winners is mind-boggling. Parris credits his incredible success solely on the bullets in his

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Ep 99: John Carlton – The One Skill Every Copywriter Must Master

   In This Episode A long overdue episode with the world’s most ripped off and respected copywriter alive, John Carlton. I’ve had the privilege of hosting a podcast with John called Psych Insights For Modern Marketers. It’s an amazing show that I describe as “hosting John’s brain”. Listeners of the show can’t get enough, and

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Ep 97: Scott Haines – Shortcutting Your Way To High Converting Copy

   In This Episode NOTE: Sadly, one week after this episode published, Scott Haines suffered a stroke on Christmas day and did not recover. He passed away on January 11th 2017, surrounded by friends and family in Tulsa, OK. This was his last interview. Another exciting episode for Truth About Marketing with a copywriting great,

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Ep 96: Jenny Thompson – Using “Sticker Shock” To Double Your Sales

   In This Episode My guest today is Jenny Thompson, a brilliant marketer and fierce proponent of higher conversions. Jenny started working as a marketing manager with Agora Inc. back in 1996, and within her first 3 years, she successfully tripled profits for the Oxford Club. Then she began a new career in New Market

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Ep 95: Ron Lynch – Using TV to Sell $4 Billion In Consumer Goods

   In This Episode Ron is an infomercial and digital direct marketing giant, credited with launching big brands like Silk’n Beauty®, Samsung North America®, and the viral GoPro® “Be a hero” campaign. To date, his work has generated over $4 billion in sales. Ron has an incredibly deep understanding of what makes a product sell.

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Ep 31 – The Ultimate 2X Traffic and Conversion Growth Engine with Kev Kaye

   In This Episode Today’s a hot episode with Kev Kaye from GrowthBOKs. You’ll learn how to save a massive amount of time and money by separating ideas worth investing in from the duds and time sucks. Resources: Get Kev’s method for cutting through the mental clutter and finding the money-making ideas by listening to the

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Ep 30 – 5 hard fast rules for fitness reports that convert with Aaron Crocker (Pt. 2)

   In This Episode In this episode, you’ll learn how to turn your expertise into an emotional experience your readers can’t resist reading about using Aaron Crocker’s 5 rules for high-converting lead magnets. Resources: Get Aaron’s hard and fast rules for high converting fitness reports by listening to the episode here. Subscribe to the podcast

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Ep 29 – 5 hard and fast rules for fitness reports that convert with Aaron Crocker (Pt. 1)

   In This Episode Aaron Carter pulls back the curtain on how to turn a “fitness report” into a high converting lead magnet. You’ll also see how the language of “emotions” morphs into stories that influence your readers to take action. Resources: Learn how to take your lead magnet past the surface clutter and into

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Ep 91: Charles Kirkland – Turning One Dollar Into Three

   In This Episode Charles Kirkland is co-founder of Media Buyers Association, a community of entrepreneurs who are focused on growth through quality, paid traffic. Charles, as you’ll soon discover, is passionate about helping and teaching people exactly how to make paid traffic convert. He’s an expert in recognizing patterns that most people don’t see

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Ep 28 – The “Lean” Ask Method For Quickly Validating Ideas with Nate Dye

   In This Episode Today, Nate Dye will teach you how to validate big ideas (using what we call “The Lean Ask”) so you can hit the ground running with a quiz funnel that’s actually worth investing the time, energy, and money into. Resources: To learn this proprietary method of validating big ideas, go here

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Ep 89: Joanna Wiebe – Saying “Yes” When It Scares You Most

   In This Episode Today, I’m glad to have Joanna Wiebe with us. We’re going head first into freelancing to find out what makes freelancers successful (and what holds others back)… You may know Joanna as the woman behind CopyHackers.com. She’s a passionate copywriter who created this site to help copywriters and freelancers build their

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Ep 25 – Sanity-restoring project management for freelancers with Abbey Woodcock and KC Baney

   In This Episode Abbey Woodcock and KC Baney are here to talk about productivity and how to better manage distractions in your life. You’ll also learn how to use productivity to 10x your writing.  Resources: Get this episode all up in your earhole here: Sanity-restoring project management for freelancers Subscribe to the podcast on iTunes here

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Ep 87: David Garfinkel – Brainstorming Great Hooks

   In This Episode David Garfinkel is a living legend in copywriting. Also known as the “world’s best copywriting coach,” David works exclusively with seasoned copywriters and direct response companies. He’s the coach that modern day copywriters like Chris Haddad and Million Dollar Mike Morgan credit with their development. David also wrote two best-selling books

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More writing, happier clients: 5 ways to handle the business side of copywriting

The dream of becoming a successful freelance copywriter is an alluring one. You make your own schedule. You work with who you want to work with. And you get paid handsomely for all of it. Plus, your job is to learn about psychology and persuasion — skills that improve every single area of your life.

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Ep 22 – 5 Elements of a High Converting Retail Brand Launch with Mike Rinard

   In This Episode Rockin’ the mic with Mike Rinard today in another hot episode of Copy Chief Radio.  In today’s episode, we’re going in depth with the 5 elements that make up a successful retail brand launch. Mike also shares highly actionable information — like the email launch sequence and custom landing page that

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Ep 80: Julia Lundstrom – Dating The FBI’s Most Wanted Bank Robber

   In This Episode Before becoming a CEO, Julia Lundstrom hit rock bottom when she discovered the love of her life was on the FBI’s Most Wanted list. Things spiraled downhill from there. She drank heavily to cope with the pain. When that didn’t work, she resorted to workaholism. Ironically, Julia’s obsession with work finally

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Ep 18 – The ONE Thing Every Freelancer Should Do To Get More Business

   In This Episode Today’s episode is specifically targeted for freelancers. And if there’s one thing I always talk about, it’s about the counterintuitive move every freelancer needs to make if they want to get more business in their life. Resources: Get this actionable tip in your ear bud here: The ONE Thing Every Freelancer Should

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[Story Sells] Sell On Emotion, Justify With This …

My nephew recently asked me how The Flash got his super-speed powers. My answer: “Barry Allen was struck by lightning while standing in front of a shelf of chemicals. The combination of the chemicals and the lightning gave him super speed. Lightning is very fast, after all.”* This story made sense my nephew. Lightning is fast,

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Ep 16 – USP Follow Up

   In This Episode Jonathan Rivera finally sought out USP Master, Ross O’Lachlainn, to help create the reason why his ideal clients should listen to The Podcast Factory show rather than any other show. Resources: Get deep inside the process and learn what Jonathan’s new USP is by using this link: USP Follow Up

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Ep 76: Will Hamilton – Why Asking Good Questions Sells A Lot Of “Fuzzy Yellow Balls”

   In This Episode At 25, Will Hamilton turned down an opportunity to work inside the famous Beltway. His reason? So he could start a tennis website in his parent’s basement, using a brand name that sounds dangerously similar to an “adults only” site — Fuzzy Yellow Balls. Will started out creating videos to teach people

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[Story Sells] The copywriting secret that helped this summer blockbuster rake in $1.6 Billion dollars

When I was a teenager, I stood in a long line to watch the first Jurassic Park. I had just read the novel in one big gulp and I was dying to see real dinosaurs on the screen. I wasn’t alone. The movie brought in over 1.02 billion dollars. Steven Spielberg, the director, knew how to tease

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Ep 72: Gail Jessen – The Truth About Living Where The Story Takes You

   In This Episode Before starting her popular website, A Series Of Adventures in August 2015 (and still going strong), Gail was “blindly” following other people’s rules… She got good grades, went to college, found a job, and continued checking off a list of accomplishments that didn’t matter to her.   Gail opens up about

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[Story Sells] TESTIFY, brother: How To Tell A “Conversion Story” that turns your customers into your best promoters

A few years back I followed my buddy to a multilevel marketing event for a health supplements company. It was a big event, designed to bring curious seekers into the fold. Presenters talked up the company and the products … but what I remember most were the testimonials. And when I say testimonials, I mean ‘testimonial’ in

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[Story Sells] How to harness the power of “Authenticity” for your sales story

You can ramp up the intensity of the stories you tell when you insert one basic theme. My friend Michael Hauge revealed this to me recently. According to him, nearly all stories in the world revolve around this central dilemma. And, so too, do our lives. When you put this theme into your stories –

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Ep 68: Will Hoekenga – The Truth About The Copywriting Hierarchy Of Needs

   In This Episode 0.10 – Freelancing SECRET! Visit this one site to become booked solid as a go-to authority instead of cold-calling tire-kicking prospects. 7.00 – How to exploit Will’s “Copy Hierarchy of Needs” to increase conversions without spending more on copy lessons and freelancers. 9.00 – The question every business MUST ask to

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How to Cure Your Shiny Tactic Syndrome And Start Creating Offers That Convert

The following is a series of emails sent about a serious epidemic in online marketing circles. Email 1 Subject: Do you suffer from “shiny tactic syndrome”? (a quick test) Here’s a quick test to see if you (or someone you love) suffers from Shiny Tactic Syndrome (STS)… __ You bought and never used Guru Buckweasel’s

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5 Steps to Transform Your Personal Stories Into Sales Machines

“Story sells…” “Your customers connect with stories, not features and benefits…” “Thou shalt not bore thy customers…” If you study sales copy, you’ve no doubt heard variations of the above…that you should be telling stories. Stories are what people remember, and the way to your audience’s heart. And you can probably name at least two

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Ep 02 – Identity: 3 Things That Must Happen Before You Sell A Thing (Part 2)

   In This Episode In today’s episode, you’ll learn the second part of the 3-point model you must follow to scale your business and make it purposeful – identity. Resources: Go directly to the episode using this link: Identity: 3 things That Must Happen Before You Can Sell A Thing (Part 2) Listen to Part 1

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Ep 63: Alexi Panos – Letting Go and Getting Raw

In This Episode 2.53 – Alexi’s “one-two-punch of awesomeness” for creating life changing transformations. (She stumbled on to this gem after quitting the rock star life and becoming a bartender) 9.57 – The “Reese Witherspoon” incident that forced Alexi out of her television career and into sharing uplifting videos… and how it snowballed into a

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Ep 01 – Clarity: 3 Things That Must Happen Before You Sell A Thing (Part 1)

   In This Episode In today’s episode, you’ll learn the first of the 3-point model you must follow to scale your business and make it purposeful – clarity. Resources: Go directly to the episode using this link: Clarity: 3 Things That Must Happen Before You Can Sell A Thing (Part 1) Listen to Part 2 (Clarity)

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[Story Sells] The Bradbury Trick for Spinning Easy Story Copy

Ray Bradbury fumbled his early stories. They took him a long time and were boring to read. Until in his twenties he stumbled upon a “trick” that gave him an endless supply of story ideas … giving us Fahrenheit 451, The Martian Chronicles, and creepy tales like Something Wicked This Way Comes. With this trick, he

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The Next Million Dollar Copywriter Live Hangout with Brian Kurtz and Kevin Rogers

 The Next Million Dollar Copywriter Live Hangout with Brian Kurtz and Kevin Rogers This epic live summit sought to help direct response copywriters and companies discover better ways to work together. Add your voice to the conversation using the comments section. Chat Log: [00:00:00 – chat] Kevin Rogers: Welcome! We will start in a few

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How to sell beyond emotion and logic (Melanie Saladino’s safety and excitement scale)

During World War I, the British Army believed high morale was the key to victory. And what builds morale better than love notes and care packages from home? So they developed an efficient way to deliver 12 million heart-wrenching letters to active-duty soldiers… every week. Here’s an excerpt from a real letter sent home during

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Ep 54: Brian Kurtz – Becoming A Million Dollar Copywriter

In This Episode Brian Kurtz joins Kevin to discuss the controversy around how freelance copywriters and business owners work together. Brian’s recent article, The Next Million Dollar Copywriter, created a lot of talk in direct response circles about the problems with how companies have been hiring and compensating freelance copywriters. Companies want teams of full-timers

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The amazing two-sentence answer to “what do you do?”

Have you ever noticed that the companies we love the most are usually rooted in rebellion? For instance… Apple started in the garage after Jobs and Wozniak left college, fed up by the slow pace of technology. Virgin Airlines was born out of Richard Branson’s frustration with crappy airline travel. Dollar Shave Club started when

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